|»|22 Anonymous 2018-10-13T19:57:49
The internet is a big place, and it seems that the worst aspects are mostly crowded in to the Mega-Sites: The Google sites, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit, and I would definitely include 4chan.
There are still many small sites that are untouched by the common culture of the above listed sites, but they're small for a reason and will probably not be "filling" enough for people used to the constant conversation you can find on the Mega Sites. I think something of the old internet, where things were less serious and deeper conversation was possible without the situation immediately dropping to inane name calling can be found, but to actually appreciate these things, users not only have to work to build the community they want, they also have to sever their own personal attachment to the sites they come from.
By that last line, I don't mean to quit 4chan, but rather, you have to stop wanting to build your non-4chan communities in the image of 4chan.
|»|23 Anonymous 2018-10-13T20:52:13
I already quit 4chan years ago and dont want my smaller communities to end up like it.
But I also like military simulators and watch 1 episode of (seinen) anime a week and dress like an old man.
But at the same time, I feel like the absolute size of the not-shit internet is now smaller than it used to be. Because in the past the internet hadnt been thoroughly commodified yet, but it was still useful, and the portion of at least decent people to interact with outside the then smaller buds of commercialization was larger. So, even though there were fewere such people than now, there were more of them on parts of the internet that weren't terrible.
Now, as far as most anyone is concerned, the internet is the web,and the web is twitter, facebook, reddit, 4chan, youtube, etc. Any given not-shit space online now, I feel certain, is less populace than it was in the late 00's, which is the start of my experience.
And people now would think of a move away from these central corporate monsters as some kind of regression.
|»|24 Anonymous 2018-10-14T05:02:28
>I already quit 4chan years ago and dont want my smaller communities to end up like it.
You're farther along than I am then, I'm still struggling to change my habits regarding that site, and it doesn't help that some stuff I tend to genuinely like is mainly discussed on 4chan (Like mecha anime and Kemono Friends).
Yeah, big sites are all about causing its users to be addicted to them, and there's a ton of little tricks that they do that smaller ones don't. It's one of the first things I noticed when I went out of my way to tear myself away from them and on to less invasive alternatives. I can understand why it feels like a 'downgrade': It bluntly is, as the mega sites have functionality that mimics those of smaller sites plus more. Going back to smaller sites is the electronic equivalent of going to the country for a simpler, less stressful life where you can learn to be more self reliant. Yes, it sounds good, feels good, and is probably far better for individual users as compared to soaking in the crowded chaos of larger sites, but it will mainly appeal to hobbyists.
Personally, I find the most difficult thing to adjust to when going from big sites to small ones is to learn how not to lurk. Or more accurately, learn how not to be a spectator.
|»|28 Anonymous 2018-10-15T21:20:56 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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Small places do have especially fragile ecosystems, but it also seems the biggest existential threat to them are lack of activity
Maybe it's due to my limited experience, but there rarely seems to be a magical 'balance' point for imageboards: either they're next to dead with like 5 posts during a week, or are 4chan/8chan. I do remember Pooshlmer having a nice balance when I used that a lot, but it seems, much like how the rest of the internet is now, everyone gathers themselves to one or two sites and won't explore outside of them.
Though thinking of it now, a good example of how people not lurking can destroy a community: I think a good recent example is DangerU. Being listed on Google Play strained that place, and the Russian kid posting cheese pizza links devastated it. Now it has a captcha to protect itself, even on /burg/. The site's owners are still working on it and adding features, but I remember them admitting to the userbase that they don't hang around the site as much because it's not fun as it was before.