>>36 Can't wait for guile emacs to be finished.

You might have to wait for a while, I don't think there's anyone working on it at the moment (“at the moment” as in “these last few years”).

>>2
Add this to youre .emacs:

;; Where emacs should keep its saves
(setq backup-directory-alist `(("." . "~/.emacs_saves")))
(setq backup-by-copying t)

(setq delete-old-versions t
kept-new-versions 5
kept-old-versions 2
version-control t)

Places all youre files in one dir, it saved my emacs experience for me and is the oldest code in my config.

>>41
you can also mirror the directory structure, it keeps stuff nice and tidy

;; make backup to a designated dir, mirroring the full path

(defun my-backup-file-name (fpath)
"Return a new file path of a given file path.
If the new path's directories does not exist, create them."
(let* (
(backupRootDir "~/.emacs.d/backup/")
(filePath (replace-regexp-in-string "[A-Za-z]:" "" fpath )) ; remove Windows driver letter in path, for example, “C:”
(backupFilePath (replace-regexp-in-string "//" "/" (concat backupRootDir filePath "~") ))
)
(make-directory (file-name-directory backupFilePath) (file-name-directory backupFilePath))
backupFilePath
)
)

(setq make-backup-file-name-function 'my-backup-file-name)

http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/emacs_set_backup_into_a_directory.html

I came across this pretty nice overview of the history of emacs lisp.

Speed is not a good reason. Parsing S-expressions is very straightforward and should be quick. Macro expansion could slow things down but theoretically you could have an S-expression based language without them. Meanwhile parsing something like C++ is a hard problem. The language is full of ambiguities and people have been working hard to make GCC's parsers fast.

I assume that at this point it is mostly a question of tradition. The processor itself executes statements (instructions) therefore most of the early languages are also based on statements. Just look at COBOL, adding numbers is done by the statement

ADD a, b TO c

. Of course this is insanity and people added expressions to their statements, so now you can write

return 1+2;

in C, which is a return statement with the expression 1+2 as an argument to it.

The reason Lisp is so different is that McCarthy did not design it to be a programming language, but as mathematical notation to reason about programs. It was never meant to run on the machines and he was quite surprised when Steve Russell managed to write the first Lisp interpreter.

>>3
Most Scheme's support structs and have object systems. Even if it is missing, you can write your own. It is discussed in the third chapter of SICP. I would also recommend the paper "Object-Oriented Style" by Daniel P. Friedman.

>>6
So hypothetically, every non-assembly language commonly used could have been designed around s-expressions including stuff like javascript and sql? Would that have been better, or is there some design advantage to using statements besides tradition?

>>7
These are two separate problems. You can have a language with only expressions but with a syntax that is not based on S-expressions. See OCaml for example. On the other end, you can have a language with only statements but encoded in S-expressions, like WebAssembly's text format.

In my opinion it can make sense to have statements if you expect the language to be used in an imperative style, meaning that most of the program is statements following one another. In this case encoding it in S-expressions you will get a very shallow tree, hiding most of its benefits. It can also make sense to avoid S-expressions even when the language would be perfectly fit for it. Many people seem to prefer a more "wordy" representation that matches human speech and find S-expressions "alien". I think it is much more important to make the syntax straightforward, consistent and predictable.

But! S-expressions are uniquely suitable for complex, computational macros, which many believe to be the crown jewel of Lisps.

>>4
>So a lisp machine is designed in a way that makes lisp accurate to the hardware?
I've always wondered this too. I have some familiarity with assembly and how those instructions map directly to binary and I can see that it's fundamentally quite different from Lisp.
But I've always wondered if there was another way the binary could function that's more Lisp-like.

This may be unrelated but I also always felt like a "Lisp Machine" would really benefit from being Single Address Space so programs could directly access data in other programs like in TempleOS.

>>4,9
Here's a paper on the architecture of one of the Lisp machines: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.5555/327010.327133

From a quick skim it seems that it was a stack based architecture with a few Lisp-specific extensions, like tagged addresses and hardware based run-time type checking. Nothing extraordinary for its time. My impression is that the real attractive part of the Lisp machines was the software, the hardware was just developed to make the performance bearable.

I know of a project that built a chip that was based on function application, based on the SECD abstract machine, but I did not have the time to study it yet. If you are interested, this seems to be a good entry point: https://prism.ucalgary.ca/handle/1880/46595

I see that the polite term for this is "transferred".
https://4taba.net/contact -> https://github.com/ECHibiki/kotatsu -> https://github.com/ECHibiki/Kotatsu-V-archived -> https://github.com/ECHibiki/Kotatsu-V/

>>44
> Enter the post number you want to reply to in the options field to start/reply to a subthread
Or you could just use >>44 like a sane person.

test1

test2[/code]test3[code]test4

test5

Switching the .code to display: inline; gives you nonsensical per-line borders: >>42 >>44.

It is, but if the code tag is used inline it fills up an entire line that looks poor to read.

I'll see which rule sets width to be sized to all contents

This is a useful software/website but as it stands I can't push it

Verniy ## SysOP 2020-05-29T00:04:22

I see it's also on free hosting. I'd like if you made it open source so I can put a copy of this onto the server hosting 4taba and make pull requests to update software. I can't guarantee I'll be active or do anything for the next two months since I'm working on kissu.

https://anychan.info/
Is my first PHP project that I used to scrape 4chan's ban pages, but I haven't touched it since and it's quite crappy as you can tell by the load times(it's at 468,492 entries using poorly written code). I want to retire it and put that software in it's place since I no longer care for 4chan.

search asdf for a surprise, was gonna put in a goatse but it appears you're fixing the problem?

search %\n% to see all sites entered.

Good idea, but bad execution.

http://electroboard.ga/ibdb/music.mp3
what's the name of that song again

You could also create new boards for branches or whatever. I guess it could work.

I remember there was ``rechan'' that tried writing software through an imageboard but I don't remember how it actually worked.

The admin already received fixes in https://4taba.net/thread/cc/116 but doesn't seem that interested in fixing things.

I'm past the stage of modifying to writting my own. Looking at 4taba has helped me understand more about the meta I'm looking for in an imageboard. If you have enough faith in kotatsu to want to use it then Artanis needs to be forked/replaced, but my direction is towards building services around kotatsu and using it as a way for me to protype services for the Kissu software service package(minus the ReactJS SSR server stuff that's occupied me the past month and a bit)

Dude its just like math. U have functions these are defined by having a type and a name f.e.
>int fnaddint(//any sort of arguments and options){
>//stuff u want the function to do
>return 0; //so all other programs know whether it was successful or there was an error
>}
And the u use them for example
>int output = fnaddint(summand1, summand2);
Then there are headers that define specific functions.
>#include stdio.h //defines the printf function.
Basic Rules. Ease of Use. No fucking around. Simple and clever. Flexible in its own way.
All other interpretation shit is redundant. If you don't like the way its handled. There are other languages more suitable for you.

touch o the tism

I had some time to think about what I said, and I have to apologise. THIS is what I think should be a valid C-CC program:
>printf "suck my cock, dude
>"

Feel free to offer feedback.

the iostream poster in this thread needs to die
it's not even c, its c++
and they're adding c style string formating to c++20 anyway with FMT
go to hell

>The final binary is going to be the same and that's what really matters.
Nevertheless, the programme actually matters. A programme is a description of a process. It is the primary source about the process it describes.
Presently, many pragmïnformaticals' edifactaries are poor. It is reasonable that vainary (i.e. it's self) or tertiary (e.g. wikis) sources are poor; it's vainary source is only to do itself, it's tertiary sources are too distant. (It's antiprimary source is (only partly) accessible to only it's authors.) Wellest, often, are (sadly, often manuscribed, thus more letting organic errata) secondary sources. It's unreasonable, yet popular, that primary sources are poor.
Alarming? Don't manuscribe, let exact processes esscribe, secondaries. Literate programming, he says, is to {\sl for a person} write it, markt suffact for distal derivion of the therein described, ready for a person, understanding it, to use it.

>The real benefit would be not having to press shift all the time
That can only be a problem if you're tired. If you are {\sl tired}, you shouldn't be at the terminal. Rest. Only while refreshed, awake, et cetera can one reliably produce reliable programmes.

>>24

test2

I found that on some Unix systems where the daily, weekly, or monthly scripts seem to not work from the command line, running them in the background (applying the & after a command) makes them work.
I think it's a bug in the way they mail the results to root.

>>23
You messed up the closing tag

test

#!/bin/sh

find_in_directory() {
find "$1" -type f -print0 \
| xargs -0 exiftool -genre 2>/dev/null \
| awk -v RS='======== ' -v FS='\n' -v ORS='\0' \
"toupper(\$2) ~ /^GENRE[^\n]+${GENRE}/ { print \$1 }"
}

if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then
echo "${0}: find music by genre."
echo "Usage: ${0} GENRE [PATH...]"
exit 1
fi

GENRE=$(echo $1 | tr '[a-z]' '[A-Z]')
shift

if [ $# -gt 0 ]; then
while [ $# -gt 0 ]; do
find_in_directory "$1"
shift
done
else
find_in_directory .
fi

>>27
Fascinating. I didn't know about shift.

> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/hurd/hurd.git/tree/console/motd.UTF8
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/hurd/hurd.git/tree/console-client/vga-dynafont.c#n390

Looks like they add custom glyphs to the Unicode Private Use Area to draw the GNU. Amazing!

>>9
So it only appears if you're using the default font?

>>10
It is dynamically added to every font: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/hurd/hurd.git/tree/console-client/vga-dynafont.c#n463

>>11 Cool and absolutely sinful that a terminal is able to do that. It'd be better if there was some kind of wacky control character or part of the MOTD script that manually changed the font, then went back to the default.

GNU Guix 1.1.0 was released: https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2020/gnu-guix-1.1.0-released/

>>6,8
Semi-off topic, but I used to use w3m.el, but it often took a long time to render the pages. And if you resized the buffer, it would freeze up for a second, so I always bounce back to eww, even though shr can't render as many sites. With w3m you can write a simple function to fetch the url and start a graphical browser

(defun w3m-external-open-graphical-browser ()
(interactive)
(browse-url-graphical-browser w3m-current-url))[/code]
In eww, that can be done with shr-external-browser. I find myself opening sites mostly in eww and then switching to qutebrowser when I need it. Conversely, if you use exwm, you can make a macro to fetch the url of the current site on qutebrowser and send that to browse-url. Took that little trick out of exwm-surf.

You can also direct sites to different browsers according to regexp with browse-url-browser-function--little-known fact.
[code](browse-url-browser-function
'(("\\(.+\.mp[34]$\\|.+\.jpe?g\\)" . browse-url-image-viewer)
(".+&loop=1$" . qrthi/browse-url-image-viewer)("duckduckgo\.com\/\\?&.+=images.+$" . browse-url-graphical-browser)
("." . w3m-browse-url) ; where w3m-browse-url is a catch-all for everything that doesn't match the above regexp's
))

That approach is a good alternative to that part of that enjoys obsessively tweaking browser, in my opinion--which is bad because it detracts from the time spent obsessively tweaking Emacs--by offloading all the configurations and bindings to Emacs. Don't even get me started on webjump.

I use lynx because its the only one that I know which also works with gopher. Having said that it's really clunky and not that great, so I should probably just move to something else.

When I'm in emacs I use eww, and it switches to elpher when I go to a gopher site, but currently I'm in an acme phase so I don't use emacs.

>>12
Just use raw netcat commands, the protocol is REALLY REALLY simple.
As far as I remember, it only has a command set of two:
"
" (enter): get a directory listing
"/path/to/fileorresource": cat this file

>>13 How does one pipe those from netcat? e.g. to a file for later reading, through a typesetting filter to display,,?

>>14 https://stackoverflow.com/a/13591423

>>8
>everything I don't like is nazi

can we not

vlare i think would be a sufficient youtube alternative. i would say it's currently much better that youtube when it comes to the website itself. i just hope it gets an interesting community, as it currently seems to be just animation memers and commentator channels.

what is the problem with vimeo, vidly and dailymotion that they aren't being used as youtube alternatives? this problem seems to have been going for a while

>>13
Same privacy concerns but less content.

I haven't watched this 3 hour video but please watch this 3 hour video about how things are bad.
- freetard

Something smells very copy-pasted about your post, like you're going down a list of imageboards and making the same thread on all of them.

>>2
i thought it was a good talk
>>3
i've never posted this in any other board

this might be some of the coolest looking spam I've ever seen

>>19
Something about that Dragon Quest VI poster being there makes me happy to see it.

>エコー　ザー ドルフィン　２
>echo the dolphin 2
lol, that image really is old

For those swfchan vibes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgwmnCMpGKw

>>23
that's very accurate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72WxCSwBjl0

>>3
lol oops I didn't think the example would be *that* big

In Waterfox the most noticeable visual difference is that the URL is removed from the navigation bar for about:blank but remains for data:,

>>3
Please don't post CP here. Thanks.

If you see somebody with numlock enabled, they are either an ACCOUNTANT or a COMPUTER HACKER. If you come across anybody like this, don't panic. STAY AWAY from the person and call Crime Stoppers. Your courage and alertness may just save lives.

>>7
Maybe they're just a lowly DATA ENTRY SLAVE?