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1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Do you like Unix? What are you using as your OS?
I'm using OpenBSD.
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24 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Debian Jessie.
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22 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
I use void linux. Its very nice.
I think most users of UNIX today dont really appreciate whats really beautiful about the system- its been turned into a platform for the same kind of philosophy as windows. But whats really beautiful about UNIX is using small, general purpouse tools to solve problems by chaining them together. Things that don't fufill any single need or task of yours on their own, but combine to do so in simple ways, with small and easily readable shell functions and scripts and stuff like that.
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26 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>25
Theres one major disadvantage I can note, wine is 32 bit only if you dont compile it yourself, and good luck figuring that mess out. Otherwise it is good.
though, if you liked that philisophical diatribe, you shouldnt think any distro or another is somehow special in that regard.
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23 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>18
>ridden with bugs

That's untrue.
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25 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>1
arch linux
>>22
i want to look into this distro, seems fun


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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lol sometimes I still love the internet


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
What kind of computer are you posting on right now?
I'm on my Wii U, comfy in my bed.
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6 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
My trusty desktop. I got it six years ago as a birthday present, now only the original hard drive remains as I swapped out everything else with my own money over time.
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7 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
An ancient 8 years old notebook.
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8 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Thinkpad!
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9 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
I'm on my shitty Acer laptop from 2011, pretty comfy.
The keyboard is actually pretty decent for an old cheap laptop.
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10 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Thinkpad X200s.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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I bought a Redmi Note 3 Pro, please tell me I didn't fuck up. It was $200 even and it seems to be the meme of the year.
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6 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>3
asshat
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7 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>6
You're the meme of the year in that case.
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8 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>1
just buy an iphone like a normal person
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9 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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>>1
I got it when it was a meme too. It's a good phone, fast and sturdy enough to keep working after it broke my fall onto a curb. I don't really care for aluminium bodies, though.
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10 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>8
Normal people suck.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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mewch.net/overboard
mewch.net/overboard
mewch.net/overboard
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2 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Doesn't really seem like anything special. Just another clone with a different set of boards and theme.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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>position: fixed;
Who was the idiot fuck what thought this would be a good idea? Not everyone is an adhd ridden kid that can't be bothered to go up to see the bar. What a waste of vertical space.
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9 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Also, fuck autoplay. Fuck having highest volume on by default, with autoplay. Fuck loading the next page with javascript, can't you just have the motherfucking link there?
Everything with youtube nowadays is SHIT.
Youtube is no longer necessary, though, with native webm playing ability in browser (still shit that shouldn't be there, but now that you don't need to download and then play shit then why not use it?)
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10 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
I'm pretty sure that "Youtube+" greasemonkey extension fixes these things.
I'm not sure how much longer it's going to keep working, though.
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11 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
I just watch everything on YouTube with mpv these days.
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12 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>10
Yes it does. Youtube is practically unusable for me without it.
https://github.com/ParticleCore/Particle
https://github.com/YePpHa/YouTubeCenter
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13 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
giant headers in general are a turnoff

not everyone is rich enough for a portrait-mode screen


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Python tripcodes

```
import crypt

def tripcode(pw):
pw = pw[:8]
salt = (pw + "H.")[1:3]
trip = crypt.crypt(pw, salt)
return trip[-10:]
```
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2 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
backlinks


import os
import re
from collections import defaultdict

def do_backlink(th='0'):
mt = load_thread(th) # here a thread is a list of replies.
bl = defaultdict(list)
for n, t in enumerate(mt):
repl = re.findall(r'\>\>[1-9][00-99]*', t)
repl = [r[8:] for r in repl if r]
for r in repl:
if int(r) >= len(mt) or str(n) in bl[r]:
continue
bl[r].append(str(n)) # generate the list of backlinks

for r in sorted([int(k) for k in bl.keys()]):
r = str(r)
return bl
[/code]

Then...

[code] # for each post in a thread

if str(post_number) in bl.keys():
print("<div class='bl'>Replies: ")
anchor = "<a href='#{0}'><i>&gt;&gt;{0}</a></i>"
print(", ".join([anchor.format(ref) \
for ref in bl[str(post_number)]]))
print("</div>")
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3 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>1
>>2
The tag is "cb" here, not "code".
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4 OP#faggot 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>3
You don't tell me what to do.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
``faggot quoting"
Why do people do it?
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2 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
It's /jp/, /prog/, and Bell Labs heritage.
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3 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>2
And LaTeX. You would know this if you were a college-educated programmer.
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4 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>3
I can't afford to go to college. I apologise for leaving out Knuth.
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5 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Please not this nonsense again.

Read the original ASCII specification. It has nothing to do with fonts or how people drew glyphs. Granted many developers drew them this way, but it was because it was more aesthetically-pleasing.

ASCII only had seven bits to work with so some characters carried multiple meanings. I never see people complain when - is used as both a hyphen and a minus, or when people use it in place of the Unicode hyphen/minus/dash characters.
` was defined as both LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK and GRAVE ACCENT. `This' and ``This'' are the proper quoting methods in ASCII. They pre-date TEX and /prog/ and wherever else you may have seen them crop up.

Typing 'this' is equivalent to using parentheses )like this) instead of (like this). If you're so obsessed with symmetry, use the Unicode quote characters (‘ and ’, “ and ”). Don't do 'this' then preach me to me when I use characters correctly.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
File: inferno4taba.png (PNG, 112.23 KB, 1922x1107)

キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
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2 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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>W10
Stop posting anytime ongai.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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After setting up a retro DOS PC and having a ton of fun with it, I've gained quite a bit of interest for other kinds of 90's computing, namely the non-x86 Unix workstations of yore that were monstrously fast and expensive back in the day. Anyone have experience with those things? Are they actually worthwhile to get and use, or is it one of those things where you play with it for a couple hours and just let it gather dust afterwards?

The MIPS-based SGI boxes are particularly interesting, but the pricing on those things seems rather silly at the moment.
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3 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
I used a computer running OpenVMS a while ago. I had no idea what I was doing, I just read some documentation and when I logged out it said my session cost $2 or something.
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4 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
OpenVMS is genuinely a very interesting operating system. You can use it for free here:
http://decuserve.org/
People should know more than Unix (and Windows/DOS)
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5 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
ibm gosenhyaku
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6 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
How monstrously fast is monstrously fast?
Would they still be able to keep up with the computers of this day?
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7 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>How monstrously fast is monstrously fast?
Compared to their IBM-compatible contemporaries in their heydays of the 80's and 90's, they had more CPU power, more memory (256 MB in 1993 was kind of a big deal) and more capable addons, for example SGI's massively powerful graphics options which made them really popular in Hollywood. As for concrete numbers, I have yet to find anything aside from generic synthetic benchmarks.
>Would they still be able to keep up with the computers of this day?

Not a chance. Sure, they're snappy enough to be used for general light computing even today with some caveats, but that's pretty much it, even a 10 year old Core2 system would devastate pretty much any of those things.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
How do I learn to get into programming? Is there a book to read?
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3 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Just by doing it. If you don't like it you can stop at any moment.
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4 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Today, I am reading my SICP.
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5 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>4
I didn't expect SICP to teach me about Euclid and Chinese mathematicians. Fun.
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6 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
My only car is a cdaadr
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7 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>4
I finished chapter 2 today.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
I'm kinda impressed with powershell: despite it's extreme verbosity, it has a very, very strong tab-complete.
I was writing a powershell script for a friend today, despite not knowing powershell, and I was interested to see that options to commands could be tab-completed, and that even arguments to commands can be tab-completed.
[/blogpost]
Interestingly enough, Microsoft has open-sourced powershell under the MIT licence, and apparently it works on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X.
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2 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
how do you even configure powershell lol
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3 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>2
In what way?
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4 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>3
Like for example, do you really need to go through the registry database in order to change some settings. How do you type that in command line? That would be pretty damn lengthy.

How about man page? Does it have documentation like unix shell do?
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5 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>4
>Like for example, do you really need to go through the registry database in order to change some settings. How do you type that in command line? That would be pretty damn lengthy.

Not sure, I know Microsoft has some products for that that come with Powershell but aren't a part of Powershell itself.
>How about man page? Does it have documentation like unix shell do?

Yeah, Get-Help, but it's really shit.
For example: to learn how to do shell scripting, you can do
man sh
but for powershell, each fucking word in the language has its own page
Get-Help about_For
Get-Help about_While
And there's no summary or tutorial page to give you the big picture.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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Software: http://github.com/153/iyagi-bbs
(messy backend but beats kareha)
Demo: http://4x13.net/bbs/
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2 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
Oh, I think you showed me this on IRC once, back when posting was disabled, or something. I can't remember your nick though.
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4 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>2
I've wildcard banned much of Eastern Europe and China.... let's see how it does at eliminating spam

At its worst, iyagi would sometimes get a few dozen spam posts a day. Really annoying to deal with...
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5 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
fuck off tokiko. you are a sorry excuse for a human being
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6 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>4
>eastern europe

I don't feel like posting anymore after such blatant discrimination.
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7 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>6
It's not racist if they're white.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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yey!

now what
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5 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>4
>ergonomic

Maybe.

>fun

Emacs is way more fun than vi(m) imnsho. Plus you can use modal editing in Emacs if you really want to.
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6 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>5
>Maybe.

Definitely.
Though since I've lately been using emacs (specifically edwin in MIT Scheme) lately, I've discovered I now try to use emacs bindings instead of IBM CUA bindings while typing in graphical programs. As in, when I type ctrl-a I expect to get to the beginning of the line, but then I realise all the graphical programs have ibm/microsoft bindings because it highlights everything.
So I've learnt something, I guess. Or at least become accustomed to it.
If only Unix developers would be brave enough to forge a new path, instead of imitate the world of Windows! Well, at least when I need a graphical editor I can use xedit now (which has emacs bindings) instead of ones that imitate notepad!
>Emacs is way more fun than vi(m) imnsho. Plus you can use modal editing in Emacs if you really want to.

I know about the vi emulation in emacs, but I don't feel a need to use that instead of nvi.
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7 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>6
> I've discovered I now try to use emacs bindings instead of IBM CUA bindings while typing in graphical programs

Yeah, I do that too. Luckily firefox has the firemacs extension, so since I spend 90% of my computing time in either Emacs or Firefox, I don't have to ``switch modes'' so often.

>I don't feel a need to use that instead of nvi

You get to still use Emacs. Emacs is way more than an editor. I used to call it a ``programming tool,'' but I've come to realize it's helpful in many more tasks, so ``computing tool'' is a better name. Although really what it is is a Lisp interpreter with a textual interface.
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8 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>7
>You get to still use Emacs. Emacs is way more than an editor. I used to call it a ``programming tool,'' but I've come to realize it's helpful in many more tasks, so ``computing tool'' is a better name. Although really what it is is a Lisp interpreter with a textual interface.

But what if I prefer bourne sh to Lisp?
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9 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>8
Then you're a True Unixman.


1 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
What do you turn on first: your monitor or computer?
I turn on my monitor first.
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6 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
I never turn mine off.
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7 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>6
Why? Electricity is valuable.
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8 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
The monitor is the first thing on and usually the last thing off.
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9 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
I wish my monitor shut off instead of going into sleep mode. I hate having to get out of bed to shut it off because of the stupid light.
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10 guest@cc 1969-12-31T17:00:00
>>9
I live in a place where thunderstorms are common and electronics do get killed sometimes, so I physically unplug everything from the walls before I go to sleep. If I don't, I have to get out of bed when I hear thunder at night or in the morning.

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