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1 Anonymous 2019-08-03T07:15:24 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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Post hikki anime girls with y2k battlestations. It doesn't matter if the art is old or new, as long as there's a CRT monitor and a reasonably obscene amount of clutter on their desk/room
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56 Anonymous 2020-04-21T18:54:12 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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57 Anonymous 2020-05-20T15:06:03
this is sayori from nekoworks' artwork claiming that its her
58 Anonymous 2020-05-20T15:14:03 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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59 Anonymous 2020-05-21T15:02:40
I'm not aeromatic/foxworth, I was just posting all of the anime girls with CRT monitors pictures I had. Have you contributed anything to the thread besides an angry animu jpeg?
60 Anonymous 2020-06-15T17:29:20 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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1 Anonymous 2020-06-14T04:49:03
Listening to music from a franchise I'm not familiar with fills me with an odd feeling of guilt. It makes me feel obligated to read/watch it now.
2 Anonymous 2020-06-14T10:18:34
So do I, but I won't watch Ping Pong nonetheless. Even if its soundtrack is great that sport fucking sucks.

1 Player 2020-05-24T15:38:16 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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Relatively recently an English translation of Taikou Risshiden 5 became available.

Taikou Risshiden 5 is a 2004 Koei Tecmo RPG/strategy game where you play as a single character of your choice during the Sengoku Japan period with a wide variety of potential activities and minigames. It is probably mechanically the deepest game of its kind.

Have you heard of it, played it or are interested in playing it?
2 Player 2020-06-10T23:31:01
I didn't hear of it before reading this thread, I'd be interested if I could find a torrent to see if I can run it on linux but I haven't had any luck so far.

1 Anonymous 2020-06-07T20:21:06 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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I wish I felt like posting here more.
Anyway, here's my wife.
2 Anonymous 2020-06-08T07:14:54
I wish everyone here didnt have such a stick in their ass and ruin the allusions of a "peaceful board". This site has gotten a lot more hostile after tabadmin transferred ownership to the kissudotmoe guy
Anonymous 2020-06-11T00:21:08
He's right you know. 4taba has been a part of the 4chanx-kissu webring, but who's behind the management is important.
Anonymous 2020-06-10T20:35:10
I disagree. Nothing of importance really changed in 4taba's culture after the takeover.

If you're talking about the increased prevalence of side-threads, it's because Verniy explained how to use them in the about page, whereas before you'd need to figure out how they worked by word of mouth
Anonymous 2020-06-08T22:20:32
hey flip you too
3 Anonymous 2020-06-09T06:28:00
I blame /co/fags.
Anonymous 2020-06-10T20:51:37
Discussion of cartoons has always been relatively small compared to that of Japanese otaku culture.

Also, there's plenty of people who like both cartoons and anime. It's not an either/or thing.
4 Anonymous 2020-06-10T18:27:29
what the hell does that even mean? Everyone here posts anime
5 Anonymous 2020-06-10T21:57:08
I blame people bringing up the pigs.
6 Anonymous 2020-06-12T11:35:57
you were already saying this before it was shit
tabamin didn't get fed up with it out of tin hair, it started going sour sooner than that.
Anonymous 2020-06-13T20:32:17
Tabamin stepped down because he didn't like the responsibility. He's still an active user here.

As for 4taba itself, it's definitely changed over the years, but it's not shit now. Hell, I'd say it's actually improved. It's developed its own personality distinct from other imageboards which is a very rare thing.

1 guest@cc 2020-06-02T05:54:18 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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I'm learning scheme as my "first language" using How to Design Programs. I've had previous programming experience before, but this is the first time i'm learning seriously with the intention of being able to understand common computer jargon like what a bash file is or what a port is. Whenever I look at other languages now, they seem so fucked up. I think, where are the parentheses? How do you know when one function starts and the next ends? How can you use an or function inside another function in c if semicolons end a function, or is or not a function in c for some reason? In middle school, I tried learning c. I don't remember what they do, but pointers were a nightmare and I'm scared of it them now.

Other languages seem like their syntax is full of arbitrary things what line you're writing on being important. In scheme, there's no difference between brackets and parentheses, they just contain things. Functions always go at the start of parentheses, and everything else after, so there's no order confusion. A good ide like DrRacket keeps track of parentheses for you too, so not having enough or too many isn't a problem. Like legos, you can just put these simple pieces together unlike a gundam model or something. It seems like it works so well to me, I don't understand why other languages are different. Is there a good reason why other languages don't have the same format besides speed?
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6 guest@cc 2020-06-02T17:09:12 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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Speed is not a good reason. Parsing S-expressions is very straightforward and should be quick. Macro expansion could slow things down but theoretically you could have an S-expression based language without them. Meanwhile parsing something like C++ is a hard problem. The language is full of ambiguities and people have been working hard to make GCC's parsers fast.

I assume that at this point it is mostly a question of tradition. The processor itself executes statements (instructions) therefore most of the early languages are also based on statements. Just look at COBOL, adding numbers is done by the statement
ADD a, b TO c
. Of course this is insanity and people added expressions to their statements, so now you can write
return 1+2;
in C, which is a return statement with the expression 1+2 as an argument to it.

The reason Lisp is so different is that McCarthy did not design it to be a programming language, but as mathematical notation to reason about programs. It was never meant to run on the machines and he was quite surprised when Steve Russell managed to write the first Lisp interpreter.

Most Scheme's support structs and have object systems. Even if it is missing, you can write your own. It is discussed in the third chapter of SICP. I would also recommend the paper "Object-Oriented Style" by Daniel P. Friedman.
7 guest@cc 2020-06-02T17:27:10 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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So hypothetically, every non-assembly language commonly used could have been designed around s-expressions including stuff like javascript and sql? Would that have been better, or is there some design advantage to using statements besides tradition?
8 guest@cc 2020-06-02T18:21:31 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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These are two separate problems. You can have a language with only expressions but with a syntax that is not based on S-expressions. See OCaml for example. On the other end, you can have a language with only statements but encoded in S-expressions, like WebAssembly's text format.

In my opinion it can make sense to have statements if you expect the language to be used in an imperative style, meaning that most of the program is statements following one another. In this case encoding it in S-expressions you will get a very shallow tree, hiding most of its benefits. It can also make sense to avoid S-expressions even when the language would be perfectly fit for it. Many people seem to prefer a more "wordy" representation that matches human speech and find S-expressions "alien". I think it is much more important to make the syntax straightforward, consistent and predictable.

But! S-expressions are uniquely suitable for complex, computational macros, which many believe to be the crown jewel of Lisps.
9 guest@cc 2020-06-06T22:07:44
>So a lisp machine is designed in a way that makes lisp accurate to the hardware?

I've always wondered this too. I have some familiarity with assembly and how those instructions map directly to binary and I can see that it's fundamentally quite different from Lisp.
But I've always wondered if there was another way the binary could function that's more Lisp-like.

This may be unrelated but I also always felt like a "Lisp Machine" would really benefit from being Single Address Space so programs could directly access data in other programs like in TempleOS.
10 guest@cc 2020-06-08T19:27:44 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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Here's a paper on the architecture of one of the Lisp machines: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.5555/327010.327133

From a quick skim it seems that it was a stack based architecture with a few Lisp-specific extensions, like tagged addresses and hardware based run-time type checking. Nothing extraordinary for its time. My impression is that the real attractive part of the Lisp machines was the software, the hardware was just developed to make the performance bearable.

I know of a project that built a chip that was based on function application, based on the SECD abstract machine, but I did not have the time to study it yet. If you are interested, this seems to be a good entry point: https://prism.ucalgary.ca/handle/1880/46595

1 Anonymous 2020-06-05T10:31:12 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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Did you know that Bomberman and B-Daman are related? Because I didn't.
2 Anonymous 2020-06-05T17:32:34
of course, I have a shitton of Bomberman B-Daman merch
3 Anonymous 2020-06-08T07:22:49
B-Dama?? B-Daman? Hhaaah pun~! Funny joke shoots balls

1 名無しさん 2020-06-04T07:57:05 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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For decades, the "nerd" or "otaku" stereotype has been embedded into popular culture and cartoons. In some instances, these references to socially awkward hobbyists have been used as a means for writers to vent about fans they don't like (ie; the Animaniacs "Please Please Please Get A Life Foundation"). This thread will be a set of examples to nerd/otaku characters that have been written into cartoons, comics, video games, etc. If you wish to contribute, by all means post some examples (preferably with the source)
2 名無しさん 2020-06-04T07:58:44 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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"Francis" from Super Paper Mario
3 名無しさん 2020-06-04T08:05:55 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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"Yonro" from Crayon Shin-chan
4 名無しさん 2020-06-04T21:27:02
Supposedly this guy was a lot more serious in the Japanese version with his spiels localized into much shorter quips. I guess it would make sense since it would probably confuse people over here.
5 名無しさん 2020-06-05T21:51:08 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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These two guys from Comic Party. I forget their names.
6 名無しさん 2020-06-08T07:19:20 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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1 They bring up the pigs 2020-04-27T05:02:10 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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They bring up the pigs.
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31 Anonymous 2020-04-28T13:16:24 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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They bring up the pigs.
Anonymous 2020-05-01T02:26:24
32 Anonymous 2020-05-12T18:55:15 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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33 Anonymous 2020-05-14T21:50:26
I swear, if they bring up those fucking pigs one more time...
34 Anonymous 2020-06-07T17:07:32 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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35 Anonymous 2020-06-07T17:07:51 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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1 guest@cc 2020-03-02T07:13:10 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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Why is there no license file provided? By default, software is proprietary, you will need to declare it under a free license to make it free software.
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45 guest@cc 2020-04-27T20:47:58
I see that the polite term for this is "transferred".
https://4taba.net/contact -> https://github.com/ECHibiki/kotatsu -> https://github.com/ECHibiki/Kotatsu-V-archived -> https://github.com/ECHibiki/Kotatsu-V/
46 guest@cc 2020-04-28T00:40:09
> Enter the post number you want to reply to in the options field to start/reply to a subthread

Or you could just use >>44 like a sane person.
guest@cc 2020-05-04T17:44:12
Haven't you ever used a forum with off topic replies? That's what these are. They let you make potentially derailing posts without actually derailing the thread (like you're doing right now).
47 guest@cc 2020-05-29T09:34:48
48 guest@cc 2020-06-04T09:36:31
Switching the .code to display: inline; gives you nonsensical per-line borders: >>42 >>44.
49 guest@cc 2020-06-04T10:32:45
It is, but if the code tag is used inline it fills up an entire line that looks poor to read.

I'll see which rule sets width to be sized to all contents

1 Player 2019-06-04T15:01:39 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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VGM webm thread
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12 Player 2019-07-29T13:16:29 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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13 Player 2019-08-11T21:20:17 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
File: HOPE ワイワイトレイン BGM.mp4 (MP4, 6.59 MB)

14 Player 2019-08-13T10:28:41 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
File: Dunk Dream - Funky Heat.mp4 (MP4, 11.32 MB)

15 Player 2020-01-22T02:52:29 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
File: 348748.webm (video/webm, 2.86MB, #f)
16 Player 2020-06-02T05:39:18 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
File: 20 下克上のその先へ.mp3 (MP3, 7.29MB, 150x150)

1 guest@cc 2020-05-28T23:34:03 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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I have made this imageboard database as my first PHP project.
It would be really nice if you consider adding your board to the database.

Thank you very much and sorry for shilling. Have a nice day
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4 V 2020-05-28T23:55:46
This is a useful software/website but as it stands I can't push it
Verniy ## SysOP 2020-05-29T00:04:22
I see it's also on free hosting. I'd like if you made it open source so I can put a copy of this onto the server hosting 4taba and make pull requests to update software. I can't guarantee I'll be active or do anything for the next two months since I'm working on kissu.

Is my first PHP project that I used to scrape 4chan's ban pages, but I haven't touched it since and it's quite crappy as you can tell by the load times(it's at 468,492 entries using poorly written code). I want to retire it and put that software in it's place since I no longer care for 4chan.
5 guest@cc 2020-05-28T23:57:01
search asdf for a surprise, was gonna put in a goatse but it appears you're fixing the problem?
7 guest@cc 2020-05-29T09:23:14
search %\n% to see all sites entered.
8 guest@cc 2020-05-29T09:26:43
Good idea, but bad execution.
9 guest@cc 2020-05-29T19:29:19
what's the name of that song again
guest@cc 2020-05-29T20:42:55
S3RL - Pretty Rave Girl
Basshunter - DotA
guest@cc 2020-05-29T19:29:50
I was going to politely sage here, but I forgot. Oops

1 guest@cc 2020-05-28T21:12:55 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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How suitable would kotatsu be for facilitating anonymous software development? You can open threads for issues, post patches as attachments, do code review the way they do on mailing lists. Of course there's no integration with version control software but mailing lists lack that too and they work just fine.
2 guest@cc 2020-05-29T02:33:44
You could also create new boards for branches or whatever. I guess it could work.
3 guest@cc 2020-05-29T06:22:33
I remember there was ``rechan'' that tried writing software through an imageboard but I don't remember how it actually worked.
4 guest@cc 2020-05-29T09:37:44
The admin already received fixes in https://4taba.net/thread/cc/116 but doesn't seem that interested in fixing things.
5 guest@cc 2020-05-29T10:41:41
I'm past the stage of modifying to writting my own. Looking at 4taba has helped me understand more about the meta I'm looking for in an imageboard. If you have enough faith in kotatsu to want to use it then Artanis needs to be forked/replaced, but my direction is towards building services around kotatsu and using it as a way for me to protype services for the Kissu software service package(minus the ReactJS SSR server stuff that's occupied me the past month and a bit)
guest@cc 2020-05-29T19:18:47
4taba has to be restarted every 12 hours because serving static files causes a memory leak. Perhaps fixable using nginx to serve all content. I thought I did this but looking at the config I haven't
guest@cc 2020-05-29T16:11:57
What's wrong with Artanis?

1 Anonymous 2020-05-26T03:49:23 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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Watch School Rumble NOW

1 名無しさん 2020-05-11T22:49:11 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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There was another thread but I couldn't find it, maybe lost in the migration. This guy's art is pretty nice, and he seems to put something out every other day: https://www.pixiv.net/users/5753136

2 名無しさん 2020-05-11T22:56:40
>>1 You didn't need to put the word "thread" in there at all, and in fact, it's bad form.
3 名無しさん 2020-05-12T03:14:29
So, in other words, the oekaki style. Like the crayon-tool style, this type of artwork got pretty redundant.
4 名無しさん 2020-05-14T00:15:29 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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5 名無しさん 2020-05-14T00:19:10
there's a big torrent on sukebei filled with old pc98 CG sets

1 Player 1969-12-31T17:00:00 [ImgOps] [iqdb]
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Talk about your favorite local arcades, ask for recommendations for places to go in your area, etc.

One of my personal favorites in Michigan is Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum, which brings me to some sad news I just learned while searching for a picture to start this thread. Marvin Yagoda, owner of Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum in Farmington Hills, MI, died Sunday, 8 Jan 2017, at the age of 78:


For those who have never been to Marvin's, it's an incredible collection of coin-op arcade machines, including videogames, pinball tables, mechanical novelties, antiques, machines commissioned specificially for the Museum and more. Yagoda founded the arcade in 1990 when his personal collection became too large to contain, and it has been a local landmark ever since. He often stopped by the Museum to hang out and chat with patrons while wearing his trademark suspenders, so many people like myself got to personally meet the man behind the magic. Very sad to see him go, but he lived a long life and touched the lives of a lot of people.

Anyway, sorry to start the thread with a downer, but I thought a little memorial would be appropriate. What arcades do you go to? Anybody else have recommendations for Michigan?
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6 Player 2019-11-10T21:57:34
just get a wangan midnight maximum tune machine and the whales will start flooding in
7 Player 2019-11-12T12:30:07
There's a Round One in my area
8 Player 2019-11-15T05:44:26
There's one in my neck of the woods as well that I just found out about. Soon to be two. Can't believe it, I spent a lot of time there in Japan so I'm beyond stoked to hit the beatmania machines
9 Player 2019-11-19T20:05:08
I got to play Time Crisis 3 at one of the movie theaters that still bothers to keep at least something up. It's the only game they had but I had a blast. It's so far away that I can barely ever go though, and it doesn't even have other games. I really wish I could play lightgun games more easily.
10 Player 2020-05-10T23:19:54
Marvin's is awesome. It's the only place I know of nearby with a Jubeat machine.

I go to Round1 in Auburn Hills occasionally to play sdvx and iidx.

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